New firmware for the Phottix Odin TTL Trigger for Canon is available. v1.24 for the original Odin and v2.03 for the Odin 1.5 can be downloaded at the links below. That does this firmware offer:
- Improved compatibility with EOS M cameras.
- Test Button and Light Meters: Pressing the Test button on the transmitter will cause the flashes in A, B and C groups to fire simultaneously. Group(s) turned off will not fire. When the flashes in A, B and C groups are set to Manual (M) mode, pressing the Test button on the transmitter will cause the flashes to fire an initial low-power pre-flash. The flashes will fire simultaneously at their set manual power levels 2.5s later. This feature allows for light meters to be used correctly.
- Second Curtain Sync: The Second Curtain Sync (SCS) function will work correctly with all cameras (except 1Dx) supporting “radio wireless system” in the camera flash menu. To use SCS the “radio wireless system” in the camera flash menu must be set to “OFF.”
- 1Dx Mode: A menu has been added to turn 1Dx compatibility on and off. Press and hold the “+” and “HS” buttons to access the 1Dx function menu. Pressing and holding the “+” and “HS” buttons (with TCU turned on) for approximately 2 seconds will access to the “1d-” function menu. If using a 1Dx, set to “ON” for best compatibility. For other camera models, use the default setting of “OFF”.
- Improve Odin 1 compatibility: Odin 1.5 (v2.03) is completely compatible with the Odin 1 (v1.24).
What is ods?
ods is Overdrive Sync, a new beta function in the latest firmware. This function allows triggering delay times to be set on an Odin TCU. This can allow an increase in sync speed over standard X-Sync when using studio lights. Don’t get too excited – a number of variables come in to play: Your camera, the studio light, the power level and flash duration of the studio light can all effect the ods function. What works with one brand and model and studio light may not work with another.
A new menu has been added to the Odin – this will allow a triggering delay (in milliseconds) to be set. This takes experimentation to find the “sweet spot” in your set-up.
Note: This is a beta function. As there are many variable in how ODS functions experimentation is required by the user to find the “sweet spot” delay time for the camera and studio light being used. Technical support for ODS is not available, but feedback on the function so it can be further refined is appreciated.
For more information see the change log included in the firmware archive.
Update: There are two different versions of the Odin TTL Flash Trigger for Canon – the original Odin and Odin 1.5. How can you tell what you have? Look at the TCU and/or receiver – both will clearly say Odin 1.5 if they are Odin 1.5 units. Sorry for any confusion.
Update 08/8/13: We have identified an issue with upgrades from previous Odin firmware version that makes 1Dx mode the default, this is what is responsible for the exposure issues some people have experienced after upgrading. We recommend that after upgrading the TCU or Receiver firmware 1. Remove the batteries, then reinsert them. 2. On the TCU, press the “Clear” button for two seconds to reset the unit to factory defaults.
Update 09/9/13: A new archive for v2.03 for Odin 1.5 for Canon Mac Installer has been uploaded. The incorrect update file was available in the previously posted archive.
Download
v1.24 for Odin for Canon PC Installer
v1.24 for Odin for Canon Mac Installer
v2.03 for Odin 1.5 for Canon PC Installer
v2.03 for Odin 1.5 for Canon Mac Installer
Yes, yes, yes…!!!! Now the game has changed and the Phottix Odin triggering system is on top!
This is amazing.Can’t wait to try it out
When is this coming to Odin for Nikon?
Whats the firmware for odin 1.5? im not sure what to download but last update i had was the 1.20 if im not mistaken , should i opt for the 1.24 instead of the v2.03?
Thanks guys for this great firmware update. Nice service.
I’ve just updated the firmware from a perfectly functioning 1.20 to the new 1.24 and now TTL doesn’t work at all. Manual still works fine. Brilliant…
How do I determine if I have the Odin 1 or Odin 1.5?
First of all, thanks for the firmware upgrade.. this ODS is really nice.
My feed back for Phottix Odin Team…
This is my first ODS Test Results using 5D Mark II + Elinchrom BX500Ri:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cselrah/9413678457/
Camera Settings: @ISO 200, f/8, 50mm
Light Settings : @2 meters, 4.3 (1/4 Power) –> BX500Ri Power Range 2.3 (1/16) – 6.3 (1/1)
ODS Timing : 3.1ms (optimized for reduced clipping)
limitation:
* My wall is not pure white
Hello Charles,
Thanks for the feedback. Some experimentation is required, both with power level on the light and the ODS delay times.
with the same power level (1/4), adjusting ODS delay times between 4.0-5.0.. i got brighter lights/greater power, but with black clipping/black band at the bottom.
my question:
Why there’s still some significant power drops when I try to optimize ODS to reduced clipping (as you can see on my test result sheet, big difference/power gap 1/200 vs 1/250)
Please improve this gap..
it should be clean from 1/200 all the way up to 1/1000 or at least 1/500
I was previously running the firmware that came with my Odins (v1.02) and am having trouble getting the new firmware working properly. Here are the problems I’ve run into:
– I can’t find any markings on the original boxes or the transmitter/receivers indicating whether I have Odin 1 or 1.5s.
– The v2.03 installer package for MAC actually comes with v1.20 firmware rather than v2.03
– Updating to the v1.20 firmware works fine (but doesn’t have the ability to work with my light meter).
– Updating to v1.24 firmware works great in M with my light meter, however I lose ETTL mode 🙁 In ETTL mode it fires my flashes (Canon 550EX) at full power regardless of the lighting on the subject. This doesn’t seem to change even when I dial in -3EV or +3EV FEC.
– ETTL metering works fine again when I downgrade the transmitter and receivers to v1.20.
– I’ve been able to reproduce this using a 6D and 7D.
Any ideas of what might be wrong here?
Jared: That is being looked into. If this is something other than a possible installation issue we will post further details.
Thanks for investigating. Let me know if you need me to try a different firmware (I ended up taking the same route as Paul and downgraded to v1.20 in the meantime) or upgrade path.
The path I originally tried was to first upgrade to v1.20 as this was the firmware build available in the MAC v2.03 installer package. V1.20 worked fine, so I then used the MAC v1.24 installer (manual worked fine but not ETTL). I then downgraded the TCU and receivers to v1.20 and tried the v1.24 PC installer (same problem).
My units don’t have 1.5 printed on them so I’m assuming they’re Odin 1’s.
Same here. With my 5d3 on ttl all my shots are overexposed regardless of any compensation/adjustments I did. But, on manual mode everything works fine. When I tried downgrading my Odins to firmware v1.20 it did worked again. Also tried my Odins(fw v1.24) with my 60d and produced overexposed images as well. I’m using Mitros and I’m very happy to have this speedlite. Thanks.
I have the ETTL problem as well with v1.24 Jared. Looks like I’ll need to downgrade to v1.20 as well.
Please see the update in the post regarding Odin and Odin 1.5 identification.
Whats the difference between odin 1.5 and Odin 1?
I haven’t been able to find much info on this but came across a forum post last night where a guy indicated the main difference is the way the 1/3 stop power levels are displayed on the transmitter’s LCD. Not sure if there are any other differences though.
When I first installed the v 1.24 firmware I had the same problem with ETTL firing at 100% and Manual power adjustments working. I tested a 1D4 and 580 EX II. I then checked and saw the 1DX ON function was the default. I changed it to OFF. I had to turn everything off remove the batteries, start everything up again and now both ETTL and Manual flash appear to be working. I still have more testing to do.
I have the ETTL overexposure problem too with my 5D3. I have tried the fix suggested by Carol and it didnt work.
f.y.i. I believe I have the original Phottix Odin receivers and triggers as I don’t see 1.5 written anywhere on them. I am using firmware 1.24.
Look’s like i’ll have to downgrade to 1.20 until a fix is released.
f.y.i. before downgrading I also tried it on my 5d2 body and it had the same overexposure issue
Further testing with 1D4 an 580 EX II. Manual and ETTL is working but zoom is not working at all.
I did some further testing to see if Carol’s suggestion would resolve the problem. With v1.24 I also found that 1DX mode was ‘on’ by default. Turning it off didn’t resolve the over exposure problem in ETTL mode for me though. However, I did find that the flash heads were zooming correctly though regardless of whether 1DX mode was on or off. Tested was done with a 6D and 7D, Odin 1 TCU and receivers, 550EX’s.
I got everything working now on both my 1 7D and 1D4. I cleared all the settings from the Odin transmitter. I toggled the 1D mode to OFF and then shut off the transmitter. I then mounted the transmitter on the camera turned on the transmitter, camera, flash and trigger. Make sure when you toggle the ID mode on or off you shut off the transmitter and turn it back on again. I now have everything working including the ZOOM function.
Carol: I think clearing the TCU’s settings may have done the trick. The first time I tried that, ETTL started working properly but I lost zoom functionality. I went through the process again and from what I can tell so far everything seems to be working fine now on the 6D.
Kudos to Phottix for releasing firmware fixes that address the (1) 1/3 stop power increment and (2) light meter compatibility issues!
Hi,
Based on the success of Jared and Carol, I am trying Carol’s procedure but am not having any luck with the overexposure issue.
What is the procedure you are using to clear the settings on the transmitter?
Phottix ODIN 1 Transmitters & Receivers; 580EXII; 430EXII; Canon 5DMkIII and Canon 5DMKII
Just hit the clear button on the odin transmitter. Make sure you have the 1DX mode OFF unless you are using that camera.
Thanks Carol,
I tried both those things. I guess I’ll stay on the old firmware until a working fix is provided for TTL overexposure on 5dmkiii and 5dmkii.
Cheers, Steve
Did you check to make sure you have no FEC set in the camera or on the flash unit itself?
Thanks Carol,
Yes, no FEC was set on either the camera or flash.
Our team is going over all the issues raised in the comment thread.
From my own experience, I upgraded an Odin 1 TCU and Receiver earlier today. There were no overexposure issues, all worked corrected with a 5D Mark III and 580 EXII.
f.y.i.
f.y.i. Here are two test shots showing the difference in exposure. The only difference is that the firmware on the Phottix transmitter and receiver were upgraded from 1.20 to 1.24 in the second image:
https://adoriaphotography.com.au/wp1/phottix-odin-firmware-v1-24-test/
I hope this helps you reproduce the test scenario.
Steve,
That looks exactly like what I got when the 1DX mode was ON. Are you sure yours is in the OFF position?
…Oh, and maybe the dslr firmware makes a difference too ? My Eos 5D2 uses 2.1.2 firmware.
I will try later this week and see what comes out. I’m working also with a 5d3 and some 580EX2.
Yes carol.
Another possible difference could be that I initially tried to install the 2.x firmware but it timed out halfway through upgrading. I wonder if that could have affected things.
Were you able to go back to 1.20 successfully with everything working correctly?
Phottix team rocks!!!! you guys are amazing 🙂 . This new firmware is the one I was hopping since a while. I downloaded today and tested it, it works like a charm. I can now say that phottix Odin is one of the best triggering system on the Market.
2 thumbs up!!! Great job Phottix engineers!!
Alex
Yes Carol, the first image in the link above was taken after backing the firmware out to 1.20. It seems to work well under 1.20 for ETTL. The main feature I am wanting in 1.24 is the ability to use the Odin with an external light meter.
Yeah, your over exposure samples look the same as what I was seeing. I don’t think upgrading to 2.x firmware and then downgrading again would have caused the problem (I’m assuming that when it timed out, clicking on ‘version’ would have actually shown the version you were upgrading from was still on there).
This might be a long shot, but when you’re clearing the TCU settings, are you holding the CLEAR button down until all 3 groups on the LCD reset to 0.0? If you’re just pressing the button rather than holding it down for a few seconds it won’t clear the settings.
Thanks Jared (& Carol) for your help!
That your last advice was the missing link in the instructions. Holding the “Clear” button down for several seconds reset the TCU. After doing that I powered off and took the batteries out, then restarted it. ETTL is now working nicely!
Cheers, Steve
Can anyone explain the procedure for using a flash meter after the update. Do you have to press the test button to fire the pre flash, put the meter into wait flash mode and wait for the manual flash all within 2.5 seconds? How do you press the test button and get to the subject in time to meter? I’m a little confused………
Hi Mart,
I’m using 5D Mark II @ISO100 + 24-105L @50mm + Canon 580EXII + Cheap Light Meter that only reads ISO100 1/125th seconds
Distance from flash to light meter @2meters
First I meter the light without Odin (using flash test button),
Canon 580EXII Manual Mode @1/4 power, @2meters,
it read f/5.6 (as a parameter to compare when using Odin)
After that, I meter the light with Odin
Group A, M 1/4 power, @50mm
Press the test button, but hide the light meter sensor from the pre-flash.
be ready for the second flash and the light meter read accurately @f/5.6
That’s how I use my Odin + Light Meter.
I hope my info be helpful for your case
Charles
No-one? Please!
Just remove the transmitter from the camera and fire the test button from anywhere you want. Hide the meter from the preflash.
When update the Odin 1.5 Receiver, the update program hold at 12% writing address: 0x2040. Failure
Thank Charles and Carol. I wasn’t sure about the test button working off the camera as I haven’t downloaded the firmware yet. I think I will be alright with the preflash as I think my meter will accept being overridden by the second flash for up to 90 seconds (Sekonic L-558). Where’s my dang USB cable when I need it!!
The Mac download for Odin 1.5 appears to contain Firmware version 1-20, and not version 2.03. Can you check this and inform us if it’s correct or not, please? Muzi seem to have had a problem with it.
Thanks for informing us of that. A new archive has been posted.
It works all fine with me. I went from firmware 1.20 to 1.24. Then I reset the TCU by holding down the clear button for several seconds. I use a Sekonic lightmeter L478D with Canon 5D3 and some 580II and 430II. No problems so far.
Thanks guys for this great update.
Seems I will wait for a while until an updated version is out. Wedding tomorrow and don´t want to risk anything 🙂
Great firmware, I tested the ODS option with a Canon 580EX II. When I use super sync there was always a black bar on top of my picture. In combination with the ODS settings (put it on 3.7) the results are great. I hope you will not remove the ODS setting!
Check out my blog for more info:
http://metjegelaatopdegevoeligeplaat.blogspot.nl
PS use translate for english.
Nice to know….ODS works also in combination with the Phottix Strato and strato II.
Go Phottix, go Phottix go Phottix 😉
I am glad to see the techs at Phottix overcome this little snafu for the Odin. After reading Frank Doorhof’s piece on the Odin I was reluctant to invest in the system. However, he felt you guys were going to be able to work it out so I went out and got a transmitter and receiver to give it a whorl. It just arrived when I saw this firmware update for Canon. Now my only question is when should us Sony shooters expect to get the firmware update? Thanks
Upgraded and everything work.